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Zine brainstorming
So if I did this, what would I call it?
I've had a few suggestions passed along, none of which were bad, none of which really grabbed me. I'm not coming up with anything particularly grabbing on my own, either, mind you.
Here's my somewhat rambling thoughts.
While we can argue about what the "first furry story" might be, it's perhaps easiest -- and not inaccurate -- to trace them back to talking animal fables like Aesop's. There's a sense in which writers like E.B. White and James Thurber were doing the first "modern" furry stories, with White's Stuart Little and Thurber's collection of fables -- not to mention his short piece "The White Rabbit Caper," a noir detective story which isn't remotely a stretch to call furry (and like most of Thurber's work, wasn't remotely aimed at children, either). I think of modern furry stories as -- at least ideally -- descendants of Aesop by way of these two New Yorker expatriates as much as by way of modern sf/fantasy and cartoons. While I don't know if he'd have enjoyed furry comics, with some titles Thurber would have recognized authors working in the same space he'd been in.
And this is where I keep returning mentally. As furry authors we're not creating fables in the way Aesop was, to be sure, but there's a sense in which we're doing modern incarnations. I'm up front about my own biases toward magic realism and urban fantasy -- authors like Charles de Lint, Terri Windling, Emma Bull, and those who work different fields but with a similar approach of fantasy breaking through a firmly-grounded modern realism, like Poppy Z. Brite and Christopher Moore. These biases certainly influence my way of looking at things, but I consider the "real" furry writers -- by which I mean simply the ones trying to tell stories with some level of meaning, as opposed to 'yiffstar' fare -- to be modern fabulists.
I'm also up front about having literary aspirations here, too. Modern Fabulist doesn't sound like such a bad title, other than being somewhat unwieldy. (I've observed that a lot of more literary small press publications are called the [Something] Review, which I'm not adverse to, although it may be more pretentious than even I want to get.)
At any rate, those are the sort of things I'm batting around -- essentially, something that calls to mind the idea of modern fables and myths. I don't want to get too specific with any given mythology, I don't think; I wouldn't mind working in references to animals but I'm not sure how to do that. Actually naming it after an animal comes to mind, although of course in the furry community that could make the over-sensitive take offense. ("I can't submit a story about a fox to a magazine called Coyotl, can I? Whine!")
And, of course, all "rules" are bendable for a sufficiently cool name. Something we liked about Mythagoras is that it was one word that captured some of these notions and made you think about it, particularly since the word wasn't actually real! (I'd be tempted to use the name once again, but I have a few superstitions about not inviting a third iceberg my way.)
I've had a few suggestions passed along, none of which were bad, none of which really grabbed me. I'm not coming up with anything particularly grabbing on my own, either, mind you.
Here's my somewhat rambling thoughts.
While we can argue about what the "first furry story" might be, it's perhaps easiest -- and not inaccurate -- to trace them back to talking animal fables like Aesop's. There's a sense in which writers like E.B. White and James Thurber were doing the first "modern" furry stories, with White's Stuart Little and Thurber's collection of fables -- not to mention his short piece "The White Rabbit Caper," a noir detective story which isn't remotely a stretch to call furry (and like most of Thurber's work, wasn't remotely aimed at children, either). I think of modern furry stories as -- at least ideally -- descendants of Aesop by way of these two New Yorker expatriates as much as by way of modern sf/fantasy and cartoons. While I don't know if he'd have enjoyed furry comics, with some titles Thurber would have recognized authors working in the same space he'd been in.
And this is where I keep returning mentally. As furry authors we're not creating fables in the way Aesop was, to be sure, but there's a sense in which we're doing modern incarnations. I'm up front about my own biases toward magic realism and urban fantasy -- authors like Charles de Lint, Terri Windling, Emma Bull, and those who work different fields but with a similar approach of fantasy breaking through a firmly-grounded modern realism, like Poppy Z. Brite and Christopher Moore. These biases certainly influence my way of looking at things, but I consider the "real" furry writers -- by which I mean simply the ones trying to tell stories with some level of meaning, as opposed to 'yiffstar' fare -- to be modern fabulists.
I'm also up front about having literary aspirations here, too. Modern Fabulist doesn't sound like such a bad title, other than being somewhat unwieldy. (I've observed that a lot of more literary small press publications are called the [Something] Review, which I'm not adverse to, although it may be more pretentious than even I want to get.)
At any rate, those are the sort of things I'm batting around -- essentially, something that calls to mind the idea of modern fables and myths. I don't want to get too specific with any given mythology, I don't think; I wouldn't mind working in references to animals but I'm not sure how to do that. Actually naming it after an animal comes to mind, although of course in the furry community that could make the over-sensitive take offense. ("I can't submit a story about a fox to a magazine called Coyotl, can I? Whine!")
And, of course, all "rules" are bendable for a sufficiently cool name. Something we liked about Mythagoras is that it was one word that captured some of these notions and made you think about it, particularly since the word wasn't actually real! (I'd be tempted to use the name once again, but I have a few superstitions about not inviting a third iceberg my way.)
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Or maybe Mytheriosist Review?
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Hmmm...
Erotic:
Coy'tus
White Power:
Polar - The White Bear-Den
Black Power:
Panther
Art:
The Pandada-ist
Art of the people:
The Red Pandada-ist
Overly Hip Children's:
GGD
Humor:
Cock & Bull
Shooting:
Hammercock
Well, that's enough of that...
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If you are going for lighter faire, then maybe "Aesop's Children"? This keeps people firmly in mind of the "fable" base, and while it might be a little restricting on initial observation, the content will broaden that perception. Only downside is the "Children" aspect which is hard to shake, but "Aesop's Offspring" has that unwieldy "Ay-Aww" sound to it and too many sound shifts to be catchy.
Actually, I kind of like the sound of "Descendants" -- taken right from your above text. With a byline subtitle to keep people from thinking it is a magazine of geneaology, it is a good option. It's short and memorable, and evokes a feeling of historical roots without being bound to the formats of old.
I often find good titles in blocks of stream-of-consciousness text wirtten while trying to describe the project to someone else. I'll often write a couple of them: one to a person who is familiar with the concept and one to a person who would be totally clueless. Find a middle-ground between the two if you can.
Whatever you call it, this sounds like a terrific project. I look forward to supporting it however I can, though these days that probably means subscribing and reading rather than writing. Hopefully you can manage to escape the editor's curse, whereby you spend so much time reading and editing everyone else's work that you stop having time to write yourself...
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"Pupils of Aesop"?
"The Clan of Aesop"?
"The Aesophisticate"?
"Aesoup For the Soul"? (Sorry...I couldn't help myself)
"The Aesop-ed Page"?
"Aesoperatives"?
And finally, this just popped into my head: "Claws and Quills", which brings forth images of animals (largely Mammals, but I have no personal issue with that) ;) and birds, but also classical/scholarly writing.
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I'm not quite sure what to do with "Claws and Quills," but I like it.
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At the risk of stepping on toes...
What about Mythellaneous?
:D
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"In Our Image"
...another thought which comes to mind is instead of having a fixed title, leave it open-ended:
"Tails Of The..." and then for one issue, it's 'Tails of The West', another, 'Tails of The Stars', for your outer-space themed issue, "Tails of The Darkest Places" if you wanted to do something Bandari-themed.... and your letters page is.. (drumroll) "Tails of The Past."
Kinda going on that theme, without the fill-in the blank:
Tall Tails: Modern Anthropomorphic Myths
-Traveller
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-Traveller
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Ahhh, this takes me back…
I'm not sure anyone wants my ideas, since I've been trying to launch a zine called "Pinko Rat Bastard" for years now, so my idea of great names is definitely suspect, but I think your ideas about being less specific and more evocative are right on. Of the suggestions I've read, I really like Claws & Quills best, myself.
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('gryn)
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