Reading this entry, I came across this fascinating analogy:
You want to know what it's like to be a Mac user? Watch some guys drinking Budweiser and marveling to each other in hushed tones about its bouquet and its body and bite. Or listen to someone who drives a Civic, gushing in rapture at its horsepower and its handling.
Better yet, listen to someone ascribing "moral equivalence" to the Palestinian suicide bombers and Israeli forces bulldozing the homes of terrorism suspects, or claiming that 9/11 is no more reprehensible than the bombing of Afghanistan, because such a position is more comfortable for someone trying to fit in with the International Community?, regardless of how such a view might clash with our most deeply-held ideals.
Is it just me, or does anyone else get that run-off-the-road feeling, like you've asked a butcher to get you a couple pounds of ground beef and while he's feeding the meat through the grinder he's suddenly dropped into flashbacks from 'Nam, so even though you only set out to get stuff to make a nice cheeseburger you're afraid you're about to start having to duck semi-automatic weapons fire?
I read a bit more of Brian's blog, and--pardon the impending sentence construction--it hits one of my beefs about the way a lot of conservatives seem to express their beefs with liberals: arguments get reduced down to black and white, us versus them, or as George W. might say, "with us or against us." The idea that people might condemn suicide bombing and responding to bombs by razing the homes is evidently completely alien. And the possibility that people could simultaneously think the WTC/Pentagon attacks were horrific and that the bombing campaign against Afghanistan was an unjustified response? The hell you say! Couldn't happen!
No offense, Brian (not that I expect he'll read this), but this boils down to a very old, clichéd moral principle: "two wrongs don't make a right." I don't think Israel's responses in the ongoing intafada have been helpful, at all. That's not a statement of support for Arafat's leadership (which by any realistic measure has been abysmal). And while I don't think there are many people anywhere, including most of the Muslim world, shedding tears for the Taliban, that doesn't automatically mean the war against them was a "just war," to borrow a Catholic phrase--and America's continued operations in the region seem to increasingly be misdirected against civilian targets (as intelligence provided to us by Afghan political factions vying for power against one another becomes increasingly unreliable). Does anyone really think that acknowledging that means that I support blowing up office buildings?
Even if I come out and assert that America's Middle East policies have heightened tension in the region, do you think that means I think terrorism isn't reprehensible?
And just how did we make the leap to this from the funny (and logically defensible) Civic and Budweiser examples? That has to do with people being unable to tell the difference between the pedestrian and the superior, which is what Mac zealots usually claim about PC partisans. The same logic doesn't apply to the second examples. Flying passenger planes into skyscrapers is, when measured against acts of terror and war committed against civilians, certainly not pedestrian. And "violence should not be met with violence" may not be a statement you agree with, but it's pretty obviously not in the same category as "all beers taste the same" or "my Civic is as good as your Porsche."
And what the hell does any of this have to do with the Macintosh?
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Date: 2002-07-19 14:20 (UTC)Recently Donald Rumsfeld made a statement regarding our bombing of an Afghani wedding party (the second wedding party we've bombed, incidentally) to the effect of 'when you're using this much firepower, civilian casualties are inevitable.' Last October it was repeated over and over again that we were going into Afghanistan to stop terrorists in order to prevent the loss of more innocent lives; the great political push for this came from grief and anger at the deaths of innocents. Now Rumsfeld is saying that we went into this with our eyes open; we knew we would be killing more bystanders. It was just somehow not mentioned at the time, possibly because the US population was very much against any action which would kill more innocent people. Now that we're nine months into the war and with civilian casualties mounting it's okay for Rumsfeld to admit that our rulers were bullshitting us. Or were we lying to ourselves? Did anyone really believe the might of the US arsenal could be brought to bear upon Afghanistan and no innocents would get in the way? It's very difficult to convince the rest of the world that we weren't intelligent enough to see this, just like it's hard to explain how we aren't responsible for the actions of our rulers when we have a democratic system.
A point I've made elsewhere is that when the US and its proxies disregard UN resolutions and commit what are essentially war crimes, the global political situation is destabilized. Weaker nations learn that they can't appeal to the UN for protection, and so take alternate routes of resistance, and stronger ones understand that if they can take what they want by force they might as well do so, as long as it doesn't incense the US. There is no deterrance to war, save US interests, and the US tends to ally itself with repressive regimes (and arm them) because it keeps populations under control.
It's interesting to consider our allies in the Middle East, the Islamic countries at least. The leadership generally supports us; it's just the population at large which despises us. It may be inferred that, for example, we are not allied with 'Saudi Arabia;' we are allied with the constituents of the family dictatorship which runs the country and which is in collusion with western oil companies. The large mass of the population is irrelevant and therefore does not count as 'Saudi Arabia' in our estimation. What this implies about our love of democracy is never examined; and when our rulers say, in so many words, 'they hate us because of our freedom,' nobody asks who is keeping it from 'them.' Everyone knows why Saddam Hussein's dictatorship is bad but no one asks why King Fahd's dictatorship is acceptable. The fact that most of the Sept. 11th highjackers were Saudis is not worthy of comment; the fact that al Qaeda is essentially a US/Saudi construction dating from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is rarely mentioned; the fact that a lot of the people in our current administration were also in power at that time mysteriously never comes up. [contd]